I thought I would add this post from 'Truthandshadows', the forum of Craig McKee , just to illustrate yet again the adage about taking a horse to water. In this case the horse is Adam Ruff, who was taken to the water a long long time ago but is basically too blinkered to realise what is in front of him. Here he clearly and angrily  proclaims the   illogical  deduction he uses to 'prove' that a plane flew over the Pentagon. You couldn't ask for a better illustration of false logic, from someone accusing others of false logic. It's priceless.


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Adam Ruff

Travis I beg to differ with you about the “controversy” with the pentagon evidence. There is no controversy about it other than the contrived controversy created by people like Wayne.

1. The witnesses establish beyond a reasonable doubt a North of Citgo (NOC) flight path.
2. That flight path is incompatible with the official story damage path. NOC therefore proves the “official” damage was staged. Proof of staging is proof of an inside job by the way.
3. The NOC flight path is incompatible with impact because there is no evidence of an impact along the NOC trajectory. Therefore the observed plane MUST have flown over and away from the pentagon.

It is simple inescapable logic and all the flim flam and distractions in the world are not going to change that.

What part of this are you having trouble with Travis? Where is the controversy? In my opinion the only error in your thinking process about the pentagon evidence is that you think people like Wayne are honest and legitimate truthers when in reality they are not. All his arguments are smoke and mirrors. Anyway as long as you focus on what Wayne wants you to focus on you will never fully grasp the very simple and logical deductive reasoning that leads inexorably to the conclusion that the NOC flight path is the most dangerous (to the perps) evidence that we have. Why? Because ONLY people in control of the pentagon could stage evidence and a cover-up at the pentagon. The pentagon is the death nail to the real perps and that is why there is such a massive disinformation effort directed against this evidence and those who promote it.

Wayne is NOT one of the good guys Travis in fact he is a very bad person indeed who is directly engaged in the attempted cover-up of DAMNING evidence that 9/11 was carried out at least in part by insiders within our own government. We long ago past the point of “honest disagreements” with Wayne and now he is repeatedly using disinformation tactics to try and make it appear there really is still a “controversy”. There is no controversy, Wayne is participating in the cover-up of 9/11 it is as simple as that. I can think of nothing more despicable other than actually committing the crime itself.