I thought I'd post this comment by Adam Ruff on 'Truthandshadows' , the most deluded man west of the Pecos, and  east of the Pecos and indeed in  the Pecos...

ruffadam

June 21, 2016 at 1:14 pm

I would be interested to see if there is ANY actual hard evidence beyond commentary? Talk is cheap and actors can act, lord knows they did both at Sandy Hook. But for this to have been real we would have 50 funerals, 50 authentic death certificates, 50 bereaved families with a long history of photos and videos of their lost loved one. There would potentially be 103 facebook, twitter, snap chat, pages that have been established some time ago and they would show real history that could be verified. There should be 103 groups of friends coming forward to talk about their lost or wounded friend, 103 medical records established filled with authentic documents and SS# etc. There should be 103 groups of coworkers or fellow students that know the person. In short there should be real proof these people really existed. A lifetime of bread crumbs should have been left behind for each person.

I think we should each take one of the “victims” and see if we can even establish that they are real. We should talk to their friends on FB etc ask for photos from the past etc. Speak to their coworkers and friends, tell their story! We should see if the death certs are available, go to the burials, see for ourselves if this is true. I strongly suspect we will find that “victim” after “victim” has no real history, no real friends willing to talk, and no job full of coworkers who knew them. Let’s find just one that is real folks, just one. Take a random name and see what you can dig up. I bet it isn’t much.

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I thought I would add this post from 'Truthandshadows', the forum of Craig McKee , just to illustrate yet again the adage about taking a horse to water. In this case the horse is Adam Ruff, who was taken to the water a long long time ago but is basically too blinkered to realise what is in front of him. Here he clearly and angrily  proclaims the   illogical  deduction he uses to 'prove' that a plane flew over the Pentagon. You couldn't ask for a better illustration of false logic, from someone accusing others of false logic. It's priceless.


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Adam Ruff

Travis I beg to differ with you about the “controversy” with the pentagon evidence. There is no controversy about it other than the contrived controversy created by people like Wayne.

1. The witnesses establish beyond a reasonable doubt a North of Citgo (NOC) flight path.
2. That flight path is incompatible with the official story damage path. NOC therefore proves the “official” damage was staged. Proof of staging is proof of an inside job by the way.
3. The NOC flight path is incompatible with impact because there is no evidence of an impact along the NOC trajectory. Therefore the observed plane MUST have flown over and away from the pentagon.

It is simple inescapable logic and all the flim flam and distractions in the world are not going to change that.

What part of this are you having trouble with Travis? Where is the controversy? In my opinion the only error in your thinking process about the pentagon evidence is that you think people like Wayne are honest and legitimate truthers when in reality they are not. All his arguments are smoke and mirrors. Anyway as long as you focus on what Wayne wants you to focus on you will never fully grasp the very simple and logical deductive reasoning that leads inexorably to the conclusion that the NOC flight path is the most dangerous (to the perps) evidence that we have. Why? Because ONLY people in control of the pentagon could stage evidence and a cover-up at the pentagon. The pentagon is the death nail to the real perps and that is why there is such a massive disinformation effort directed against this evidence and those who promote it.

Wayne is NOT one of the good guys Travis in fact he is a very bad person indeed who is directly engaged in the attempted cover-up of DAMNING evidence that 9/11 was carried out at least in part by insiders within our own government. We long ago past the point of “honest disagreements” with Wayne and now he is repeatedly using disinformation tactics to try and make it appear there really is still a “controversy”. There is no controversy, Wayne is participating in the cover-up of 9/11 it is as simple as that. I can think of nothing more despicable other than actually committing the crime itself.